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Whether you’re an egalitarian or a complementarian, I wish all people approached the subject as Darrin Patrick does: Here’s why: 1.  Darrin is sincere in his belief, but he allows for others to differ. 2.  Darrin came to his conclusion by studying scripture, not by talking with someone who read someone else’s book. 3.  Darrin doesn’t use this issue as a test for sincerity or fellowship.  He agreeably disagrees. So, no matter which side of this argument you come down on, I appreciate, in the end, how he has communicated his differences. What do you think?

Here’s an interesting article written by Craig Keener at the AG Enrighment Journal giving some input on what Keener things the Apostle Paul really thought about women in ministry.  Here’s how Keener starts out… The question of a woman’s role in ministry is a pressing concern for today’s church. It is paramount first, because of our need for the gifts of all the members God has called to serve the Church. The concern, however, has extended beyond the Church itself. Increasingly, secular thinkers attack Christianity as against women and thus irrelevant to the modern world. Increasingly, secular thinkers attack Christianity as against women and thus irrelevant to the modern world. The Assemblies of God and other denominations birthed in the Holiness and Pentecostal revivals affirmed women in ministry long before the role of women became a secular or liberal agenda.1 Likewise, in the historic missionary expansion of the 19th century, two-thirds of all missionaries were women. The 19th-century women’s movement that fought for women’s right to vote originally grew from the same revival movement led by Charles Finney and others who advocated the abolition of slavery. By contrast, those who identified everything in the Bible’s culture with the Bible’s message were obligated both to accept slavery and reject women’s ministry.2 For Bible-believing Christians, however, mere precedent from church history cannot settle a question; we must establish our case from Scripture. Because the current debate focuses especially around Paul’s teaching, we will examine his writings after we have briefly summarized other biblical teachings on the subject. You can read the rest of the article here. So… what do YOU think?  What would the Apostle Paul say today about our infighting about the topic of women in ministry?  Would it be a big deal to him?

This question will not go away.  Watch this… good or bad apologetics? Personally, I think that we will never all agree on this issue. A question for those of you who’ve been around longer than me… is the ‘women in ministry’ issue a bigger issue today than it was 20 years ago? And, for everyone out there… will this issue be as big in 10 or 20 years as it is today? Is there any common ground between the two sides other than agreeing to disagree? What’s YOUR take? Todd PS – Be nice.

What is the average pay for a senior pastor these days? Well, of course, it depends… on your experience, the size of your church, and what sex you are. According to the 2012-2013 Compensation Handbook for Church Staff (which surveyed about 4,600 churches and 8,000 church positions), the average senior pastor overall makes… [drum roll please]… $82,938. That’s up from last year’s average salary of $80,745. Another interesting finding is that women church employees (senior pastor or otherwise) make on average 28% LESS than men across all paid positions in the church. QUESTION:  Regardless of your position on women in ministry (at least in Senior roles), is it OK for women working in vocational ministry to make 28% less then their male counterparts? Why or why not? Take a look at your personnel expenses… Do you pay your women staff members less then your male staff members in equal or near equal positions? Let us know your thoughts below… Todd SOURCE

We’ve had some good discussions this week about the role of women in ministry.  The blog OutofUr has been taking a look at this topic this past week, and today they have posted this video by famed theologian N. T. Wright.  Take a look and let’s hear your response to this one… (You can check out our other video entries this week on this subject here and here) What do you think?  Does N. T. Wright’s argument make sense to you?  Why or why not?

Rev. Mimi Walker was ordained in 2003 and serves as co-pastor with her husband of Druid Hills Baptist Church.  That’s the sole reason that the Georgia Baptist Convention wants to remove the church from its role. The 52 year old former missionary wonders why. “It seems sad that they decided to go backwards in time…I’m not sure what the value is of trying to go back in time when women were held in subservience.” More from an article in the Atlanta Journal Constitution: The GBC’s executive committee made the recommendation to sever ties with the church at a March 16 meeting. If its recommendation is approved at the annual convention in November, the GBC would no longer accept money from Druid Hills for missions and programs, nor would the church be able to send delegates — called messengers — to future annual meetings. “…Druid Hills Baptist Church of Atlanta is not a cooperating church as defined in Article II, Section 1 of the constitution because a woman is serving as co-pastor of the church,” the GBC said in a statement. “We are keeping faith with the Baptist Faith and Message with regard to women serving as pastor,” GBC executive director J. Robert White said in a statement. “The GBC has never been opposed to women serving in ministry positions other than pastor.” The Georgia Baptist Convention, an affiliate of the Nashville-based Southern Baptist Convention, has roughly 3,600 churches. There are 41 state conventions throughout the country. The Georgia convention is one of the 41 affiliates, but it has its own constitution and bylaws. The church will prepare a response if the GBC should “dis-fellowship” it, the Rev. Graham Walker said. — You can read the whole article here… What do you think?  Regardless of your view of women in ministry, is this something that is worth dis-fellowshipping over? Todd