Tim Keller or Andy Stanley: Who’s Correct? 2. Stylish Adult Baptisms 3. Is Joel Osteen Smilingly Leading People to Hell? 4. Three Areas You Can’t Neglect As a Pastors (But Probably Are) 5. Andy Stanley Talks About Quitting First Baptist and the Healing Process 6. Megachurch Opens $55 Million Facility in Anaheim 7. 5 Things Pastors Hate to Hear About Their Messages 8. Church Growth: It’s All About the Pastor 9. When TV Preachers Lose Their Temper 10. 5 Phrases That Will Likely Kill Your LeadershipInteresting… Here are the top ten posts from the website for the month of November. It’s a good insight into what most pastors and church leaders find interesting: 1.
I can hear it now… I’ll trade you a John Calvin for a Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Are you crazy? No way. But I’ll trade you a Driscoll, Chandler, Noble, and Furtick for a Tim Keller. OK… sounds like a fair trade. Let the games begin. BTW… you can order them from Amazon.com… They release TOMORROW! Here’s all the geeky details: Patterned after the all-American baseball card, Theologian Trading Cards provide essential information about the major teachers, leaders, and trouble-makers throughout the history of the Church. At a glance you will have access to information regarding 288 important figures in church history, including when and where they lived, their contribution to the church, and enduring significance. Each figure has been placed on the roster of one of 15 ‘theological’ or ‘historical’ teams; this aids readers in discovering the practical, chronological, and theological connections between figures. Examples include the Orthodoxy Dodgers (heretics); St. James Padres (Church Fathers of the Patristic Era); and the Wittenberg Whistle-blowers (Early Reformers and later Lutheran Church). Theologian Trading Cards are perfect for students taking a church history course who want a memorable study aid to help them retain important information about select individuals in the church, as well as non-students who just want to learn or want to begin a hobby of card collecting.I can see pastors all across America, sitting in their basements in their underwear, sorting and trading these:
Geographically, New York and Atlanta are less than 900 miles apart. Culturally, they occupy different universes. New York is fast-paced, cutthroat, and secular. Atlanta, by contrast, is southern, faith-friendly, the last big loop on the Bible Belt. • Like the cities in which they minister, Tim Keller and Andy Stanley are markedly different as well. Stanley is a pragmatist, a leader’s leader known for his vision and commitment to creating environments where the unchurched feel welcomed. Keller, on the other hand, is a professorial presence, a skilled theologian who effectively addresses the doubts of intellectual urbanites. • Both have new books explaining their distinctive ministry philosophies. Tim Keller’s tome is Center Church: Doing Balanced, Gospel-Centered Ministry in Your City (Zondervan, 2012). Andy Stanley’s magnum opus is Deep and Wide: Creating Churches Unchurched People Love to Attend (Zondervan, 2012). • We spoke with Keller and Stanley about what they’ve written. Their answers uncovered some deep differences—and surprising similarities.First, the book trailers: Read the article here…
The only way to have non-Christians in attendance is through personal invitation by Christians.While I know the point that Tim is making (especially about making worship ‘comprehensible to unbelievers’). His point about people not inviting non-christians to church UNLESS the worship is ‘comprehensible’ is the main takeaway of this piece for me. The importance of Christians actually inviting people to a church service that they can understand cannot be underscored. But if Tim is saying that invitation is the ONLY way that unbelievers end up in church, that MAY be overstated. We have people nearly every week that kind of wander in. Â They’re new in the community. Â They’re experiencing a life-crisis. Â They see our sign and are curious. Â They see and advertisement. Â The come across our website. Â Could be any number of things. So… if I have to disagree on anything with Tim Keller, I guess I’ll choose this. Â He is so freakingly brilliant on everything. And… even if I’m taking Keller totally out of context, I’ll stand by my statement… Tim Keller is wrong. [waiting for lighting strike]