One of the most common reasons for pastoral leadership mistakes is blindness to the significance of church size. Size has an enormous impact on how a church functions. There is a â€œsize cultureâ€ that profoundly affects how decisions are made, how relationships flow, how effectiveness is evaluated, and what ministers, staff, and lay leaders do.
We tend to think of the chief differences between churches mainly in denominational or theological terms, but that underestimates the impact of size on how a church operates. The difference between how churches of 100 and 1,000 function may be much greater than the difference between a Presbyterian and a Baptist church of the same size. The staff person who goes from a church of 400 to a church of 2,000 is in many ways making a far greater change than if he or she moved from one denomination to another.
A large church is not simply a bigger version of a small church. The difference in communication, community formation, and decision-making processes are so great that the leadership skills required in each are of almost completely different orders.
What do you think?
Here are three quotes taken from an article at Chron.com that feature three very prominent megachurch pastors. See if this kind of flies in the face of what many people think about megachurches: low involvement, low accountability…
Here are the quotes… what do you think?
Craig Groeschel on “Christian Atheists”:
I believe in God but I want to do whatever the heck I want to do. I want enough of God to keep me out of hell and enough of God to get me into heaven but I don’t want so much of God that it makes me change my lifestyle because at its root I believe in God but I do not fear Him.
Rick Warren on Saddleback’s future:
If you passively just want to sit around in the next 10 years and just waste your life on things that won’t last, you probably want to find another church because you’re not going to really feel comfortable here. Because if you’re in this church, I’m coming after you to be mobilized.
Bill Hybels on Willow’s discipleship mistake:
We made a mistake. What we should have done when people crossed the line of faith and become Christians, we should have started telling people and teaching people that they have to take responsibility to become “self feeders.” We should have gotten people, taught people, how to read their bible between services, how to do the spiritual practices much more aggressively on their own.
A new lawsuit by a woman and her husband claims a pastor of a large church “purposefully introduced her into his life of depraved pornography, adultery, scheming, lies and the abandonment of her marriage and family with the intent that it would lead to the destruction of her marriage and family, which he knew would be going against everything she ever believed in or truly desired.” The couple is seeking $6.6 million for breach of fiduciary duty, intentional infliction of emotional distress, negligent infliction of emotional distress, and other claims.
Folks… this HAS TO STOP.
How? I don’t know.
1. If this pastor did this, we HAVE to find ways to stop it. There is NO WAY that the allegations levied in this article can be true without huge warning signs and red flags SOMEWHERE along the way. Is there?
2. If this is a total fabrication from the couple, how do we defend ourselves from this type of thing? Video surveillance of counseling sessions?
How do you prove things in a he said, she said situation?
If you’re innocent, you could be an hour away from a news story like this breaking about YOU.
If you’re guilty of this kind of conduct, you have no right being a pastor.
Either way, you’re vulnerable.
How do you protect yourself from:
1. Falling into a sin like this; or
2. a False accusation that could ruin your reputation, family, and ministry?
Have you thought about this? What are your thoughts?
From The Inquisitr:
A former janitor at a Tulsa megachurch was sentenced to 55 years in prison Wednesday after he pleaded guilty to raping a 13-year-old girl in the church’s stairwell.
Chris Denman was sentenced to an additional five years of probation and a $12,000 fine.
Denman was accused of the August rape of a 13-year-old girl on the campus of Victory Christian Center, a megachurch in Tulsa that has 17,000 members. He was also charged with making a lewd proposal to a 12-year-old girl and molesting a 15-year-old girl.
Denman quoted Bible verses at his Wednesday sentencing and said he wanted to go to prison. Prosecutors said at the hearing that Denman was arrogant and used religion and the safety of the church to prey on young girls.
A second former employee, Israel Castillo, awaits trial on a charge of making a lewd or indecent proposal to a child. Prosecutors said Castillo sent explicit Facebook Messages to a 14-year-old girl he had known for at least two years.
Five church employees accused of waiting two weeks to report the alleged rape are facing misdemeanor charges. They include the son and daughter-in-law of the head pastor, Sharon Daugherty. All five have pleaded not guilty.
The 13-year-old victim’s mother sued the church and accused employees of trying to cover up the rape. She said the church was more interested in damage control and making her daughter feel as if she were to blame for the rape.
What a black eye on:
The church community in Tulsa
The megachurch movement (all the headlines mention MEGACHURCH in the headline)
All those that serve God faithfully.
I hate that.
This is a great example of how NOT to run your church finances, or your personal finances for that matter.
Eddie Long has had a rough couple of years… various sexual allegations with young men that were settled out of court, declining membership at his megachurch, and now a divorce… which is bringing new details into view of how convoluted the finances are between Long’s church and his personal finances.
And the local TV news investigative reporter is all over the story. Lesson: Keep your personal finances personal, and don’t mix it up and blur the lines with the church. I know this is not a problem for most all of us… at least to this degree… but as a pastor, you have opportunities, however small, to game the system from time to time. In the words of Nancy Reagan: ”Just say no”, or else you may end up in this type of a situation with the IRS and local media:
Gene Appel proves there IS life after Willow Creek.
According to the Orange County Register:
A sprawling building once devoted to the science of flight was rededicated Sunday with another reach-toward-the-sky purpose: as one of the largest churches in north Orange County.
Eastside Christian Church paid $20 million for the former Boeing site and an additional $35 million to replace the office cubicles and test floors with concert lighting, a thundering sound system and 1,800 seats. The building reopened with a prayer – “Do mighty works in this room.” – and a pastor’s promise.
“Friends, there will only ever be one sign on the door at this church,” senior pastor Gene Appel told the congregation on Sunday, with almost every one of those seats filled. “It’s this,” he said as he held up a welcome mat.
And then he announced another expansion. The church plans to launch a Spanish-language ministry in the spring, led by Mexican rock musician-turned-preacher Hector Hermosillo.
Eastside has seen explosive growth in the past few years that helped push it from its longtime home in Fullerton. Around 3,500 people now attend its services on an average weekend.
Many credit Appel, who arrived at Eastside in 2008 with a kicked-back style (he preaches in jeans and an untucked shirt) and lessons drawn from his own life. He told the congregation on Sunday that the church is there for the “Hurricane Sandys that come along in our lives.” And he joked that the screen behind him – 20 feet tall and 38 feet wide – “has Super Bowl party written all over it.”
The church bought 20 acres of old Boeing property in northeast Anaheim, near Anaheim Lake, mostly with donations from the congregation and the sale of its old Fullerton church.
Other interesting facts:
The renovations: An 1,800-seat auditorium, classrooms, a nursery and children’s area, a cafe and small bookstore, a lounge area, and meeting places. Also 275 new trees, 13,000 new shrubs and bushes, and an outdoor play area
The plan: The church plans to lease out most of a six-story building also on the property, possibly for stores, offices or a restaurant.
All three of these are news that you need to know about this week:
Links (but the video’s much more fun to watch!)
A mid-state mayor has a bold vision: mixing church and state and business. The mayor of Mt. Juliet said he plans to actively recruit a mega-church to their city to attract more Sunday afternoon business.
“What a boom that would be to our retailers- to have 3,000 or more people exiting church at 12 noon and getting lunch at Providence, or shopping at Providence or going to a movie or spending their day in some other form in Mt. Juliet,” said Mayor Ed Hagerty.
The Mayor’s vision goes beyond building economic growth through a mega church. He said he wants to build on his town’s brand as a patriotic locale and make sure those visitors and passersby know where the residents in Mt. Juliet stand.
“If we are able to recruit a mega church to our community, if they would put up a huge cross then everyone driving through Mt. Juliet on the interstate would immediately know that we stand first and foremost for God and country,” he said.
As for questions about mixing church and state, Mayor Hagerty said no taxpayer money would be spent, and said he sees no conflict in his office pushing for a place of worship.
Mt. Juliet, TN: about 17 minutes east of Nashville
Somehow… I think this will not be a good plan for the mayor. I’m guessing he’ll get some backlash. Kind of like when the mayor of Toledo, OH proposed providing housing for deaf people next to the airport. Or when Fort Wayne, IN wanted to name a municipal building after a former mayor, Harry Baals (pronounced Balls).
OK… this is bizarre.
Faith Life Church is a large church ‘Word of Faith’ church located in Branson, MO.
And they’re opening a new church… in Sarasota, FL… a megachurch… in just a couple weeks.
Pastor Keith Moore announced to the Branson congregation that their new sister church would open in Sarasota on February 5 for their first service.
Faith Life Church purchased a large warehouse and has installed 2,700 chairs. They’ve also paved a 600 space parking lot, done a lot of building improvements and even landscaping.
They purchased the building for about $4 million.
They also purchased a 2.2 million seven-bed, seven-bath home to use as a residence.
And they’ve raised over 3 million on a 5 million target for the complete renovation of the inside of the church building.
From the news story, there’s no mention of why Sarasota. And no insight into why they think this new satellite campus will merit such a huge space, or huge expenditure.
Looks to me like this may be a huge test of faith for the church’s prosperity gospel. Cause it sure don’t make sense to me.
$12.5 million will get you a 125,000 square foot megachurch building situated on 51 acres in beautiful Johnson County, KS. You’ll get a 1,400 seat sanctuary, a huge kitchen, a coffee shop, indoor playland, basketball courts and more.
The bank foreclosed on First Family Church in Overland Park over three months ago, but the property is turning out to be a hard sell. While the building is beautiful, it is really functional only as… well, a really big church.
So… if you’re in the market to start a megachurch in Kansas… this could be the opportunity you’ve been waiting for.
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