Initially I chuckled at your response then I listened to his though again and went deeper.
Positively in the clip, he defends the brotherhood of humanity and points out the absurdity of the subtle racism and cultural superiority promoted by National Geographics. That is why he brought up the tangent of the white woman in NG.
The problem I have with your post is that it is a snippet from a wider point taken from Christian Nightmares and appears to be posted as a gotcha moment of those “wacky KJV baptist”.
I’ve never been in that camp and often have spoken against them as legalist. I would even say this brother preaching falls in to that category in this sermon thesis. Yet, that is not what this clip is about.
It is about mocking a brother in Christ. That’s wrong especially for us Christians to promote. We should call out when a brother sins or misrepresents the faith but not through mockery.
The problem that I have with the pastor speaking is that he is totally opening up the Church Universal to mockery by posting a rally his troops comment and that his wider thesis misses the mark.
His thesis is that Christian Schools are not radically better than public schools nor are they biblical. He even advocates public schools over Christian ones (drawn largely from his negative experiences in Christian ones and positive experiences in public one) though his central tenant is homeschooling is the only option for the biblical Christian.
I listened to the “sermon”, which was a chore. The snippet is from minute 49 onward. The pastor and church were foolish to put online such a abbreviated section as calling National Geographic as “National Pornographic”. What we should be asking though is what is his whole point in context? His wider point is that Christian Schools are not biblical and that Christian school kids are just as reprobate as public and perhaps worse. The clip comes from his memory of his time at various Christian schools. The Christian kids from his childhood were memorizing the location of where the naked people were in NG and lusting over them at the Christian school he attended as a kid.
I disagree with the way over simplification of the issue of childhood education, human sexuality, and his reductionistic conclusion of his perspective on how children must be educated.
Yet, the wider question remains what good did posting this clip do for the Church Universal?
Why should we ever want to have a laugh at the expense of the Church? This should lead us to prayer for him not mockery of him.
My point is not to mock, but to point out the silliness that constitutes much of Christianity these days.
I’m sure you won’t like the post on Rick Joyner today either.
Realizing that, there is a fine line between mockery and sarcasm. I hope you read most of what I write about stuff like this as sarcasm rather than mean-spirited vitriol or hatred. (Because that couldn’t be further from my heart).
Truth is… whether it’s Steven Anderson talking about the evils of “National Pornographic” or Rick Joyner talking about amputees getting their extremities grown back through miracles, or Kenneth Copeland claiming his books had a part in the Berlin Wall falling (or Ed Young telling us how many times he’s had sex with his wife in the past month)… these are all things that make us Christians look silly
Should we pray for them? Yes (and I do).
Should we bring their folly to light? I guess you could argue both ways on that.
But this blog is nothing more (and nothing less) than things that catch my eye and what I think about them.
I can turn my eye from all of the silliness that is reported on the news and the interwebs… but others aren’t… and they’re lumping me in the same pot as the Steven Andersons and Rick Joyners of this world because we all have the label “Christian”.
I actually read you at least a few times a week. I appreciate your post.
I’d rather though you nail the heart of the thesis that is wacky or plain out heresy rather than just add a punchline (though funny) to what is really wrong with the guys central thesis. The pastor was foolish to post it on youtube. Yet, there is a sincerity in the guy’s argument though sincerely wrong in his conclusions. There is at least respectability over the charlatans that are merely out there for the insane amount of wealth to be gained by milking a gullible flock. I have more sympathy for legalist than charlatans and liars. I agree it is important to distinguish between what really should be labelled “Christian” and what is most certainly not. Let’s hit the more why it is not “Christian” and not just the folly of it. That I hate too because it trivializes who and what Christ came to accomplish.
Wait, do you have that issue from September, 1977 memorized?
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Initially I chuckled at your response then I listened to his though again and went deeper.
Positively in the clip, he defends the brotherhood of humanity and points out the absurdity of the subtle racism and cultural superiority promoted by National Geographics. That is why he brought up the tangent of the white woman in NG.
The problem I have with your post is that it is a snippet from a wider point taken from Christian Nightmares and appears to be posted as a gotcha moment of those “wacky KJV baptist”.
I’ve never been in that camp and often have spoken against them as legalist. I would even say this brother preaching falls in to that category in this sermon thesis. Yet, that is not what this clip is about.
It is about mocking a brother in Christ. That’s wrong especially for us Christians to promote. We should call out when a brother sins or misrepresents the faith but not through mockery.
The problem that I have with the pastor speaking is that he is totally opening up the Church Universal to mockery by posting a rally his troops comment and that his wider thesis misses the mark.
His thesis is that Christian Schools are not radically better than public schools nor are they biblical. He even advocates public schools over Christian ones (drawn largely from his negative experiences in Christian ones and positive experiences in public one) though his central tenant is homeschooling is the only option for the biblical Christian.
I listened to the “sermon”, which was a chore. The snippet is from minute 49 onward. The pastor and church were foolish to put online such a abbreviated section as calling National Geographic as “National Pornographic”. What we should be asking though is what is his whole point in context? His wider point is that Christian Schools are not biblical and that Christian school kids are just as reprobate as public and perhaps worse. The clip comes from his memory of his time at various Christian schools. The Christian kids from his childhood were memorizing the location of where the naked people were in NG and lusting over them at the Christian school he attended as a kid.
I disagree with the way over simplification of the issue of childhood education, human sexuality, and his reductionistic conclusion of his perspective on how children must be educated.
Yet, the wider question remains what good did posting this clip do for the Church Universal?
Why should we ever want to have a laugh at the expense of the Church? This should lead us to prayer for him not mockery of him.
Point taken, Will.
My point is not to mock, but to point out the silliness that constitutes much of Christianity these days.
I’m sure you won’t like the post on Rick Joyner today either.
Realizing that, there is a fine line between mockery and sarcasm. I hope you read most of what I write about stuff like this as sarcasm rather than mean-spirited vitriol or hatred. (Because that couldn’t be further from my heart).
Truth is… whether it’s Steven Anderson talking about the evils of “National Pornographic” or Rick Joyner talking about amputees getting their extremities grown back through miracles, or Kenneth Copeland claiming his books had a part in the Berlin Wall falling (or Ed Young telling us how many times he’s had sex with his wife in the past month)… these are all things that make us Christians look silly
Should we pray for them? Yes (and I do).
Should we bring their folly to light? I guess you could argue both ways on that.
But this blog is nothing more (and nothing less) than things that catch my eye and what I think about them.
I can turn my eye from all of the silliness that is reported on the news and the interwebs… but others aren’t… and they’re lumping me in the same pot as the Steven Andersons and Rick Joyners of this world because we all have the label “Christian”.
That. I. Hate.
Todd
Agreed.
I actually read you at least a few times a week. I appreciate your post.
I’d rather though you nail the heart of the thesis that is wacky or plain out heresy rather than just add a punchline (though funny) to what is really wrong with the guys central thesis. The pastor was foolish to post it on youtube. Yet, there is a sincerity in the guy’s argument though sincerely wrong in his conclusions. There is at least respectability over the charlatans that are merely out there for the insane amount of wealth to be gained by milking a gullible flock. I have more sympathy for legalist than charlatans and liars. I agree it is important to distinguish between what really should be labelled “Christian” and what is most certainly not. Let’s hit the more why it is not “Christian” and not just the folly of it. That I hate too because it trivializes who and what Christ came to accomplish.
Wait, do you have that issue from September, 1977 memorized?