Matt Chandler: Are you willing to go to jail?

An interesting article over at Religion Dispatch, talking about current trends in culture and the church.

Here are the last two paragraphs that cite Matt Chandler.  Then you can see the writer’s response in the last paragraph.

There’s a lot to discuss in those two paragraphs.  Take a read, then let me know what YOU think:

In the wake of the Giglio withdrawal, there was an attempt to frame him as a victim. Chandler embraces a similar narrative, portraying gay rights activists as the bullies and Christians as the persecuted minority. “The rhetoric is changing,” he said. “At one time, we were Ned Flanders, goody two-shoes. Now we’re American al Qaeda.” He told me he was worried about a time, perhaps in the near future, when it would be considered a hate crime for a pastor not to perform a same-sex marriage. He is not alone in this fear. “Are you willing to go to jail?” Chandler said. “These are the questions that are coming for the church.”

I doubt that’s a question that’s coming for the church. The real question is: How long should you fight for a lost cause?

Read the whole article here.

What do YOU think?

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  • Steve Altman February 4, 2013 Reply

    I think you may be being optimistic re the hate crime penalty.

  • CD February 4, 2013 Reply

    Why has homosexuality become THE topic among the world of Christianity? It’s ridiculous and no wonder it will become a hate crime – look at how poorly many Christians treat gays and lesbians… How often is being gay talked about in the Bible? And how often is helping the homeless and poor mentioned – this disgusts me

    • John Carpenter February 5, 2013 Reply

      Because (1) it’s THE topic in common culture right now, even equated with civil rights; (2) God treats homosexuals poorly: He damns them to hell (1 Cor. 6) unless they repent; (3) it’s spoken of at the beginning of the discussion of the gospel in Romans (as an illustration of how depraved people are, in 1 Cor. 6 as among those sins that keep one out of the Kingdom of God, and in a few other places.

      If you are disgusted by telling the truth about sexual perversion and not by the sexual perversion itself, then you are a worldly person who needs to examine himself as to whether he is truly a Christian at all.

  • John Carpenter February 5, 2013 Reply

    What’s the “lost cause”? Christianity?

    • Brian L February 5, 2013 Reply

      If I read the entire article correctly, the “lost cause” is our effort to convince the majority of people that homosexual behavior is wrong. And I would have to agree. No amount of theology is going to convince a culture to abandon what it sees as okay. Just looking at how pre-marital sex and co-habitation have risen over the years should give us a clue to that.

      The strategy now, as I see it, is two-fold: (1) hold the line biblically regarding sexual sin, and (2) show love and compassion to those in the midst of it. We do that by helping them see that God did not make them gay, and that He wants to transform them into beings of sexual wholeness.

      This will look different for different people. For some, it will mean celibacy; for others, it will be a complete re-orientation of desire; and for others it will mean abstaining from whatever that sin is with the help of caring brothers and sisters walking alongside. This is true for all sexual sin, not just homosexuality. Those addicted to porn or actual sex (heterosexual) need God’s transforming power just like those struggling with same-sex attractions.

      • John Carpenter February 5, 2013 Reply

        Yes, you’re right. I’ve left a good comment.

        Holding the line regarding sexual sin is going to be difficult as the culture gets insistent not only is the sin ok, but that saying it is not ok is itself evil, that it is equivalent to being the taliban, a “hate-crime”. It will require the revival of the Biblical practice of church discipline.

  • kjc February 5, 2013 Reply

    John I am with you Brother what is the lost cause when we obey the Bible directives, the Bible and Christianty has always engaged the culture wars, in the Gospels and Acts we see it – in all of Paul’s letters we see the war of ideas. Sorry guys, pastors, church leaders this is our time to be procliamers of the greatest truth ever know, as Peter Marshall said one time let it fall where it may.

  • Dane Gressett February 5, 2013 Reply

    The author got one thing right: there is a temptation by those who still hold to Biblical standards to do so almost apologetically. We don’t want to come across as haters. But maybe the deeper reason is that we want to protect ourselves from being hated. I’m never tempted to “apologize” for opposing murder or lying, by saying something like, “Remember, lying is just one of many sins…”

    The more that the majority culture disagrees with specific aspects of Biblical morality and ethics, the more dangerous it will become to continue to speak out in those areas.

    Jesus didn’t try to soften His words so as the reduce their convicting power: “The world cannot hate you, but it hates Me because I testify of it, that its deeds are evil.” (John 7:7)

    Jesus didn’t worship the affirmation of those who opposed God’s rule. He lived only for His Father’s approval. Will I (we) follow Him?

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